31. M. Dasan:
As a person invested in understanding alternative philosophical
and epidemiological traditions in opposition to hegemonic and
hierarchical systems of knowledge I look forward to learn from the
deliberations of the seminar. Yes the topic is broad. but we can have various
sessions.
Since most of the Ambedkarites are practising Buddhists it would
be better that we have a session on Ambedkarism and Buddhism as an emancipator
y ideology.
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32. Kirathan V:
...for me the Buddha gave importance to practice, because that
alone can give real benefit. Our life is so short so it will be prudent to
practice it and enjoy the benefit
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33. Harinarain Pandey:
Buddha's eight fold path, middle approach and panchasila
are of paramount importance.many social,religious, economic and political
problems may be resolved by sticking to these ideals.
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34. P. Seshadri:
34. P. Seshadri:
I am not familiar with the social or cultural movements
in south India that were inspired or based on the philosophical principles
of Buddhism.
Dr. Ambedkar's contribution to revive Buddhism and use it to bring about an egalitarian society through non-violent means is, to my mind, a very important and significant achievement that straddles the pre- and post-independent India. And also, HH The Dalai Lama's efforts to use Buddhist philosophy as a spiritual bridge to unify people belonging to different faiths and cultures across the world needs to be highlighted. And, the social/religious milieu in Myanmnar (the violence indulged in by Buddhist monks and Muslims) is a probable indicator of what may unfold in times to come.
Dr. Ambedkar's contribution to revive Buddhism and use it to bring about an egalitarian society through non-violent means is, to my mind, a very important and significant achievement that straddles the pre- and post-independent India. And also, HH The Dalai Lama's efforts to use Buddhist philosophy as a spiritual bridge to unify people belonging to different faiths and cultures across the world needs to be highlighted. And, the social/religious milieu in Myanmnar (the violence indulged in by Buddhist monks and Muslims) is a probable indicator of what may unfold in times to come.
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35. Girish Kumar T. S:
It appears that some people still confuse between Varna and Caste,
and propagate such confusions. Some people still keep accusing the Vedic
religion as caste ridden, which is not the case at all. Varna deteriorated into
caste, and how and why this took place had been well discussed and understood.
Vedic religion actually has nothing to do with caste, Vedic religion has only
to do with Varna.
Buddha's intervention was indeed against this deterioration, but
it is erroneous to think that his primary concern was caste. His primary
concern was knowledge, the Vedopanishadic knowledge tradition, and due caste
phenomenon, this knowledge was not being provided to the whole of society to
see who can further it, or carry on with it. Instead of giving knowledge to
Brahmins, it started being provided to Brahmin castes, and as Brahmin santans
are not necessarily Brahmins, the knowledge tradition suffred suffocation.
Buddha made it available to all, and thus, the vedopanishadic knowledge
tradition continued as extented on and on through the teachers of Buddhism.
It is improper to de-link Buddha from vedopanishadic knowledge
tradition, albeit those Buddhist scholars did this mistake though
inadvertently. But then, if this was not the case, how did Sankaracharya
succeeded in re-establishing the supremacy of Vedopanihsadic knowledge
tradition a thousand years later? Sankara's Digvijaya, his so complete success
shall ever be living demonstration of the origin of Buddhist knowledge system
in Vedopanihsadic knowledge tradition.
80% of Bharatiya values are Buddhistic? Interesting speculation.
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36. P. Madhu:
The idea of 'religious determinism' far shallower than the idea
of economic determinism.
Interestingly,
strictly speaking 'Buddhism' 'jainism' & hinduism are not 'religions' as
the colonial intellectuals represented them- for whatsoever political reasons.
"Hinduism" especially is not even a "dharshana". Except for
emotive politics of identity- the recent construct of "hinduism"
can't even be equated with another resent construct
"brahminism".
As Sasi claims the claims are modern. I think he is right in questioning the claim that Kalady means Kalady of Sankaracharya- but it merely mentions- reverence to the foot-print of any guru or many gurus of many traditions- later appropriated by brahminical forms of 'hinduisms'. These brahminical forms of Hinduisms has no antiquation as it is claimed. I think it is well known- & hence not even debatable!
As Sasi claims the claims are modern. I think he is right in questioning the claim that Kalady means Kalady of Sankaracharya- but it merely mentions- reverence to the foot-print of any guru or many gurus of many traditions- later appropriated by brahminical forms of 'hinduisms'. These brahminical forms of Hinduisms has no antiquation as it is claimed. I think it is well known- & hence not even debatable!
The pain of caste
discrimination exists. One can't deny it. Today's caste discriminative
practices- however can't be traced back to millenniums- I think that is also
well known for any one who did even some surface studies in history.
Contemporaneity has to be understood in its actual juncture. Ascribing any
liner cause effect logic to contemporaneity to far distant pasts of
disconnected worlds of unrelated semantics is anachronistic- that is merely a
'truth game' interests vested with identity politics - fascinated by
contemporary opportunities such games endow to its holders in the narrowest
sense. Such discussions can't be taken back searching its roots 2000 years or
before!
Jati- Varna & caste are different constructs. It is also
obvious for a keen student. 'Jati' has more of a linguistic & grammatical
origin- as it can be traced back to the linguistic arguments of Panini,
tholkappiyar, Bhratrhari & other grammarians- distinguishing 'general' from
particular. In Buddha's first principle of 4 noble truth Buddha identifies Jati
with Birth (of the moment/ being- conditioned by previous births, moments &
existences). Buddhism is not Jati free as it is claimed- both in practice
& theory- but that Jati is not exactly caste discrimination of the
contemporary world....
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